Category Archives: Hobbies

Christmas 2011 Newsletter


  • Sam Soukotta guest speaker @ Elim
  • Creation at The Rock
  • Uncle Ross stayed with us
  • Church in the Community (Stokes Valley Pool)
  • Tree Top Walk with Tane
  • Travel to Londts at Te Puke
  • Ken’s family visit us.


  • WHEN Camp at Brookfields Scout Camp, Wainuiomata
  • Tane @ Basic Chemistry Course, Victoria University
  • Church in the Community (Taita)
  • Vex Robotics Fundraiser
  • Hamish’s 12th birthday
  • Stan Walker Concert
  • Zirka Circus


  • Marriage Course at Salvation Army, Johnsonville.
  • Tennis
  • 17th wedding anniversary and celebration
  • Men’s Ministry with Pastor Cornelio Perez


  • Duck Race Fundraiser (for St Johns)
  • Marriage Enrichment Dinner and Course
  • James temporary Team Leader at work
  • Messianic Passover (Knox Church)
  • Outreach at Taita Laundromat


  • Tane’s 14th Birthday
  • Captivating Creation Cavemen from Canada (Reformed Church of Silverstream)
  • Fiona @ Celebrate Recovery
  • Adolescence Study with Hamish
  • Tane at
    • FITE Life Group, The Rock Church
    • RAZE Youth Group, Elim Church
    • Traction Youth Group, Newlands Baptist
  • James’s 43rd Birthday
  • High School Musical (at HIBS)
Aimee at Pulse (Kids Church) at Elim


  • WHEN Science Fair
  • Adolescence Study Complete
  • Relationships Course @ Taita
  • Show Stoppers at Chilton St James School
  • Fiona @ Celebrate Recovery
  • Excellent performance appraisal
  • Dot Net Meetups


  • Running Relationships Course @ Taita Church
  • Kids 4 Drama Rehearsals of a Midsummer Night’s Fairtale
  • Two Gilbert & Sullivan plays
    • HMS Pinafore
    • Trial by Jury
  • Hamish at Telecom Foundation Workshop
  • James interviewed about home interest rates (just a man on the street)
  • Web training and after party
  • Visiting speaker Cecily Stoneham


  • 1st Plasma Donation
  • Auckland Holiday:
    • MOTAT
    • Rainbows End
    • Auckland War Museum
    • Ice Skating
  • Rotorua & Te Puke
    • The Luge
    • The Londts


  • James moved into new Telecom building
  • A2 Drama Class rehearsals
  • Promise Keepers


  • Naomi & Anna Visit
  • Boundaries Course – Participation Completion
  • Boundaries Course – Leaders Commencement
  • Rugby World Cup
  • Interviewing Candidates at Telecom
  • Tane @ ATC Dinner
  • Aimee’s 10th birthday.


  • Boundaries Course – Continuation
  • The Real Saint Nick (Rehearsals)
  • Extreme Dance
    • Tap Dancing Performance
    • at Southwards Museum Theatre
    • Smooth Criminal & Thunderstruck
  • St Johns Awards Ceremony
  • Telecom/Chorus Demerger Ceremony
ST John Comps 095


  • The Real Saint Nick (at Elim)
  • Boundaries Course – Completion
  • Christmas Plans

METTLE Monthly Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 11


Volume 5 Issue 11

November 2010

Hippolite Musings 



In November, I:

  1. Conquered the Project Management tool which Telecom uses by entering 3 months actuals and 1 months forecast work for the 8 staff in my team.  I’m a trainee Team Lead!
  2. Finished Spring Interclub (Squash) competitions.  Harrumph.
  3. Attended Northern Squash prize giving (see photo left).
  4. Attended copious rehearsals as King Nebuchadnezzar in Elim’s production of “It’s Cool in the Furnace!
  5. Gave my Creation presentation once again, this time to a men’s group at Elim.  Took great questions.  Very positive experience.
  6. Attended Guy Fawkes Celebrations at Frank Kitts Park (courtesy of a BNZ staff friend).  Got out of the rain by going across the road (courtesy of Telecom House access card).
  7. Attended another Vex Robotics Scrimmage.
  8. Attended a mate’s birthday BBQ.  ‘Tis the season!
  9. Sent Aimee for her first camp away from home without us (St. John’s).
  10. Ran four Align Bible Club services.
  11. Received direction on how to maximise My Personal Performance (MPP) reporting.  This is corporate-speak for complying with my quarterly performance reviews.
  12. Fixing up WHEN library database in preparation for handing it over to somebody else.  Yippee!
  13. Sat and failed my Windows Communication Foundation exam.  Ah, well, there’s always next month!
  14. Studied (before and after exam) materials for said exam.
  15. Met with Martin Steel, pastor of Harbourside Church and mentor to Align Church.  Received (more) leadership training.  Asked seriously tricky questions.  Got straight answers.
  16. Took ABC class to Heaven’s Gates, Hell’s Flames drama at Avalon AOG.
  17. Took final minutes as Secretary for Grenada Village Community Association at AGM.  Presented finances as acting Treasurer.
  18. Assisted Fiona to handover Membership Secretary duties of WHEN.
  19. Align Leaders Workshop (Praise Centre, Wainuiomata).
  20. Guitar lessons.
  21. Gave promo of musical production at church.
  22. Delivered one project.  Picked up three more.  Christmas is always busy (people trying to get stuff finished before the shutdown period).


World Outreach



  • INDONESIA. This coming Monday, Nov 22 the Principal of Tawangmangu Bible College (TBC) and an attorney of Justice will meet with the Governor of Central Java to request that the authorities reduce their price for the TBC campus land to the 30% deposit that has already been paid. Other land owners on Mt Tawangmangu are also protesting the gov’t’s high freehold fee on their land, with most landowners not willing to pay.  Sam & Carol Soukotta ask that we remember to pray for this very important meeting on Monday, in particular that the favour of the Lord will be toward TBC. Thank you.
    Please also remember John LeRoy in prayer as he continues to recover after contracting typhoid and dengue fever last month in West Kalimantan, Indonesia.
  • MOZAMBIQUE. A WO team is presently in northern Mozambique ministering to some 400 Koti leaders and they request our prayers. In particular they are asking for wisdom to know how to encourage & guide some of the Koti who sense the Holy Spirit directing them to go and minister among the Mwani people group further north, near the border with Tanzania. Pray too for a rich anointing of the Holy Spirit on the Koti gathering, for healing of bodies that are afflicted with malaria and other diseases, and that the inner working of the Holy Spirit will continue to transform the Koti people from their former pagan ways, and baptize them afresh in the Father’s love.   
  • WO2010. Prayer is requested as members of the WO International leadership meet on Mon, Nov 29 to discuss and sign off on important policies relating to the organization’s journey of change that began back in 2003.  At present 90% of what was targeted to happen by the end of 2010 has been achieved. The Nov 29 meeting will help sign off on the remaining outstanding items.
  • VISAS. Please pray for Jessica (India), Tony & Annette (Thailand) and Jason & Anne (Indonesia) who all need the favour of the Lord for the approval of their visas so they can continue serving the Lord in their respective nations.   


  • THAILAND.  Lorraine Dierck, WO Thailand field leader writes: “Our church-planting teams are doing well with much fruit, and continuing to baptise new believers every day. Outstanding miracles continue to happen as these uneducated brand-new believers step out in faith and pray for blind eyes to be open, lame legs to start walking – and they do! The new churches are now preparing for their first Christmas as followers of Jesus, and as you can imagine, they are wisely planning how they can use the Christmas story to bring their families and friends to faith in Jesus Christ.”
  • ETHIOPIA. Daniels’ father Tammen is an important man who leads 5 mosques in South West Ethiopia.  Through the testimonies and witness of some friends, Daniel became a believer in Jesus Christ and steadily grew in his new found faith even though he experienced much opposition and persecution. He now is pastoring a church in a Muslim community. Recently he witnessed to the leader of the local mosque and the man and his whole family eventually became followers of Jesus Christ.  Within three days of the mosque leader’s conversion his oldest son suddenly passed away. He refused to bury his son in the traditional manner but wanted his son buried at the Christian cemetery.  Some five thousand Muslims attended burial and listened intently to a clear presentation of the Gospel.  Shortly afterwards when at Friday prayers, a Mosque Sheik told his congregation that they should beat the Christians and kill Daniel. As he was about to publicly announce this over the loud speaker system, a heavy rain storm fell on the mosque and surrounding area and nobody could hear the announcement.  Then a lightning strike destroyed the crescent and moon on top of the mosque and part of the building was damaged.  The mosque sheik was shocked and frightened by what had happened so declared, “don’t touch the Christians because their God is more powerful.”   Since then there is peace and Daniel has seen the church grow with more coming to listen to the preaching of the Word of God every week.

John Elliott

Koinonia House News



  • 69 Children Saved From Prostitution Rings
    November 09, 2010
    A three-day federal crackdown on child prostitution rings across the country has resulted in the recovery of 69 children and the arrest of 884 people, including 99 pimps, federal authorities said Monday. There are now 39 Innocence Lost task forces and working groups throughout the country. So far, those units have recovered 1,250 children, and the initiative has resulted in 438 indictments, 625 convictions, 153 criminal enterprises disrupted and 58 successfully dismantled, authorities said.
    – CNN
  • Bible Distribution Nixed At Michigan Schools
    November 09, 2010
    A school district in southern Michigan is stopping a longstanding practice of allowing the Gideons to distribute Bibles in the hallways of its elementary school after a parent complained to the district’s superintendent. Superintendent Mike Potts told The Christian Post on Tuesday that the district is not taking a stand on whether Bibles are right or wrong but simply following regulations as a government agency. "We cannot condone the passing any literature of that nature regardless of who’s passing it out," said Potts.
    – The Christian Post
  • China and Russia Vow To Advance Military Cooperation
    November 09, 2010
    China and Russia, vowing to advance military ties, signed an agreement in Beijing Tuesday for developing military cooperation between their two countries. The signing came during a one-day visit to China by Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, RIA Novosti reported. A spokeswoman for Serdyukov said the accord involves contracts to supply spare parts for air defense systems, aviation and navy equipment.
    – UPI
  • Oklahoma Sharia Law Ban Blocked For Now
    November 08, 2010
    A popular new law that bars Oklahoma courts from considering Islamic law, or Shariah, when deciding cases was put on hold Monday after a prominent Muslim in the state won a temporary restraining order in federal court. US District Court Judge Vicki Miles-LeGrange ruled that the measure, which passed by a large margin in last Tuesday’s elections, would be suspended until a hearing on Nov. 22, when she will listen to arguments on whether the court’s temporary injunction should become permanent.
    – Fox News
  • Intelligent Design in The Hebrew
    November 06, 2010
    In the Hebrew version of Wikipedia, the page on intelligent design translates ID with the phrase "tichnun tivoni," which means something like "intelligent planning." And so it’s translated regularly too in Ha’aretz and other Israeli news sources. The Wiki page is well supplied with the usual distortions that you’d expect from Wikipedia in any language, but never mind that. The question of how to translate "intelligent design" into the language of the Bible is an interesting one. Is there an actual Biblical phrase that captures the idea?
    – Evolution News and Views

Why I Am A Climate Realist

Climategate video of the year

James says:

This video is a hard-hitting exposé of the tactics used by Climate Alarmists to distort the truth and spread fear, uncertainty and doubt in order to advance, or at the very least maintain their grasp of tax-funded tenures.

Why I Am A Creationist


  • Pew survey reveals widespread religious ignorance
    When the Pew Forum surveyed Americans’ knowledge of various religions, no one really scored well. What are the implications for the Church? Gary Bates and Lita Cosner suggest a solution in their analysis.
  • Does chromosome fusion prove common ancestry?
    Evolutionists claim that evidence of chromosome fusion in humans, who have 23 pairs of chromosomes, proves that we were descended from apes, who have 24 pairs. But Dominic Statham shows that for evolutionists, their interpretation amounts to “Heads I win, tails you lose”.
  • Mammoth burgers served on buns?
    New Scientist has published new evidence of widespread flour production in ‘stone age’ Europe. In this article, CMI-Australia’s David Catchpoole shows how evolutionary assumptions about the diet of ancient humans caused scientists to completely overlook this evidence.
  • classic: The evolution train’s a-comin’
    Don’t the small changes we see in living things today prove that, given millions of years, those small changes could add up to evolution? In this classic article from Creation magazine, Carl Wieland says no; because the changes are heading in the wrong direction! Read The evolution train’s a-comin’ (sorry, a’goin’—in the wrong direction).
  • Exciting new feature. Get on your mobile!
    Need an answer on the go? Now it’s easy to access our over-7500 fully searchable articles through any web-connected cell phone: just go to
  • Creation talks by satellite—with a twist…
    CMI speaker and satellite scientist Dr Mark Harwood has commenced recording a series of 16 sessions of 30 minutes each for an Arabic Christian TV Channel that provides content for satellite-based channels over Australia and New Zealand, plus also for possible Middle East coverage. The interesting ‘twist’ is that the programs will be transmitted by a satellite that Mark actually designed! If you haven’t already got it, we highly recommend Mark’s latest DVD, Elephants in the Room.

Why I Am Pro Maori


Nominations for Kaumatua and Rangatahi representation on the Board of Te Runanga O Toa Rangatira Inc, are now open.

The Kaumatua positions are for

  • 1 x koroua, and
  • 1 x kuia

The Rangatahi positions are for

  • 1 x kotiro, and
  • 1 x tamatane

If you would like to nominate an iwi member to the Board of Te Runanga O Toa Rangatira Inc., please click here to access the nomination form on the Ngati Toa website or contact the Runanga office on the number listed below.

Nominations close on 6 December 2010 and nomination forms and supporting documents must be received at the Runanga office by 5pm, Monday 6th December 2010.

All nominees and nominators must be registered members through whakapapa, reside in New Zealand and be 18 years of age and over.

In the case of the Rangatahi (both kotiro and tamatane), the nominees must be at least 18 years of age and be no older than 27 at election day, that is 18 February 2011.

Voting papers will be sent to registered Iwi members. Postal votes will close 6pm Wednesday 17 February.

A Special General Meeting will be held Puna Ora, Takapuwahia on Thursday 18 February 2011 where a final opportunity to vote will be available. Voting will open at 10am and close at 3pm. 


If there are any questions regarding this information contained in this email please phone the Runanga on 04 237 7922 or email

Missy Te Kahu
Iwi Registration Administrator
Te Runanga O Toa Rangatira Inc
Phone: (04) 237 7922

How to… 

Engage the Culture

What struck me as odd this month was the Pike River Mine disaster.  The outpouring of grief; the decision to hold a state funeral; the unprecedented (I was a child and didn’t notice Erebus) public attention.  For 29 coal miners nobody had ever heard of before, at a West Coast mine nobody knew existed.

God got a mention.  This was good.  Even the atheists who want to ignore Him, couldn’t resist trying to lay the blame at His feet.  Which is highly amusing, because their faith position offers no hope nor succour to the families of the miners.  Meanwhile, the churches cooperation in Greymouth contributed to a very positive image of Christian unity.

And finally, I have to agree with the lone letter to the editor who exposed an (in hind site) obvious contributing factor to the accident: that the Greens value snails over the lives of those men by forcing the mine to tunnel rather than allow open cast mining. 

Snails are not taonga.  People are taonga.

Great Scientists…

…Who Believed the Bible

Joseph Lister (1827–1912)

Imagine making a discovery so important that a whole branch of science dates its calendar by it.  That is what happened because of a Christian doctor.  Joseph Lister’s discovery of antisepsis has led some to divide the history of medicine into the eras “before Lister” and “after Lister.”  His work did more to save lives in the hospital than any other in history.  Surprisingly, it took nearly a generation for his discovery to become accepted.  He faced strong opposition from doctors and surgeons who didn’t believe him and weren’t about to change their ways.  In the end, however, because of Lister’s perseverance in teaching what he knew was right, and from the dramatic success of those who followed his procedures, his ideas finally took hold, and at his death, he was a world-wide hero.

Friday Fax


Dear Colleague,

Today Terrence McKeegan reports on the Holy Father’s historic vigil for all unborn human life.  People from around the world participated in their local churches, and 10,000 people participated in Rome.  

Amanda Pawloski reports on the UN Youth Conference.  For lack of money, sponsors, and organization the conference might not happen next summer.    

Spread the word. 


Austin Ruse

Pope Leads Worldwide Prayer Vigil for Unborn Life

By Terrence McKeegan, J.D.

ROME, December 2 (C-FAM) Last Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI led an unprecedented global prayer vigil for unborn life in Rome that was repeated in countries around the world. Ten thousand faithful jammed St. Peter’s Basilica including many children who were presented to the Holy Father.

In his remarks, the pope offered support to those working in the pro-life movement. “I wish to express my thanks to all who have taken up this invitation and those who are specifically dedicated to welcoming and safeguarding human life in different situations of fragility, especially in its early days and in its early stages,” he said. 

Dithering Over UN Youth Conference

By Amanda Pawloski

NEW YORK, December 2 (C-FAM) If present dithering is any indication, the promised global conference celebrating the UN International Year of Youth may not happen after all.

As it stands now, governments at the UN cannot decide on a date, sponsor, funding, or venue. However, some fear that a hasty youth conference will be thrown together at the last minute, given the example set by the World Youth Conference in Mexico this past August. 

Train a Child



  • Had rehearsals for his tap class end-of-year production of Wonderland, playing one of the Queen’s guards;
  • Had rehearsals as a guard for King Nebuchadnezzar in Elim’s production of It’s Cool in the Furnace
  • Hmm maybe there’s a theme developing here.
  • Started attending The Rock Church’s FITE (youth group) instead of Onslow Community Church’s TYG.  Not sure of the desirability or rightness of changing, but at least he’s wanting to go to something reasonably positive.


  • Is getting jaded with the hard work of deconstructing and re-building robots now.  Now we’ll see if he has an engineer’s tenacity;
  • Is enjoying learning guitar chords from me, and we can play simple duets now;
  • Has discovered that St John’s award merit badges for community service, and that helping to lead Children’s Church at Align qualifies.  He’s much more focussed there now.
  • We sold his unused, second-hand drums on Trade Me.  He got a reasonable portion of the money.  He promptly chose a replacement toy.  We went to Dick Smith to buy a walkie-talkie set with 3km range.  We discovered the batteries were extra and expensive.  He negotiated a loan with me.  He was not entirely pleased with his new acquisition, until he’d earned some money to extinguish the debt.  Now he’s happy and learned a valuable lesson (so has Dad – I won’t do that again).


  • Went away on St John’s camp.  Made a friend.  Talked heaps.  Slept little.  A great time was had by all.
  • House was quiet in her absence.  Ah bliss.
  • Was also in Angela Goodall’s Dance Academy production of Wonderland.  Played one of the tapping caterpillars.  Very cute.  As the oldest in her class, was a capable leader.

Why I Am Pro-Israel


Weekly Review: November 28, 2010

Dear Friend of Jerusalem,

Here are the latest headlines from the One Jerusalem Blog:

  • He Didn’t Care if Children Died
    No we are not talking about Adolph Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Mao. We are reporting the words of a teenage Muslim who wanted to blow innocent people up at a Christmas celebration in Portland Oregon.  Mohamed Osam Mohamud is the…
  • Palestinian Blogger Arrested by Fatah: 
    The press keeps referring to Fatah as moderates, the civilized ones Israel should embrace. One Jerusalem has often documented the uncivil nature of Fatah and its Palestinian Authority (PA). To their long list of incivility to their own people you…
  • Muslims Violate French Law…While the Police Watch: 
    watch the video
  • Palestinian Authority Denies Jewish Origin of the Western Wall: 
    Over the years, One Jerusalem has recorded examples of Palestinian leaders denying an ancient Jewish presence in Jerusalem. Well this week they publicly displayed their contempt for Israel’s claim that the Western Wall was constructed by Jews. In an official…
  • Jews Are The Offspring of Pigs and Apes: 
    That Muslim children in England are learning such drivel is (unfortunately) not a great surprise. But what is surprising and encouraging is that the British news media is treating this story with the contempt it deserves.The Daily Mail, Britain’s largest…

Sincerely, The One Jerusalem Team


She Learned Her Lesson

I was the new teacher for the toddler-age Sunday school class, which included my 14-month-old daughter. During a lesson on creation, I’d ask questions like, "Who made the trees?" or "Who made the sun?" and the children would respond, "God did." I was pleased the children learned quickly that God made everything.

Teaching lessons at home was more of a challenge. I had tried hard to teach my daughter to pick up her toys, and she wasn’t learning very quickly. One day I walked into the living room to find toys scattered everywhere. In exasperation I asked, "Who made this mess?" My daughter looked at me with a proud smile and said, "God did!"

—Carol J. Rivest, "Heart to Heart," Today’s Christian Woman

Events Schedule


In this section, I highlight dates, times and venues of events either I am presenting at, or of interest to METTLE.  I’m available for bookings.






Advanced Students Concert

Raroa Intermediate School



Telecom Christmas Party

TSB Arena


4-5 Dec

Angela Goodall’s Dance Academy presents Wonderland

Memorial Theatre, Victoria University of Wellington

Tane & Aimee Hippolite

10-12 Dec

It’s Cool In the Furnace

Elim Church Wellington

James et al


Robotics Scrimmage

Scots College



Christmas Carols

Grenada Village Community Hall



TechNet Unplugged

Intercontinental Wellington



Kids Bible Klub EOY performance

Newlands Christian Assembly

Aimee Hippolite


2010 Final Wellington Geek Dinner




Elim Carol Service

Wellington Elim






10-14 July 2011

PDC 10



Bible Reading 

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End Notes

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METTLE Monthly Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 7


Volume 5 Issue 7

July 2010

Hippolite Musings


In July, I:

  • Played in a squash tournament (lost utterly, but at least I competed);
  • Celebrated the wife’s birthday;
  • Release my daughter for a sleepover (slumber party);
  • Watched the All Blacks decimate the South Africans;
  • Hosted my big brother and his new family at my home (for the first time ever);
  • Got some outside advice on improving my marriage (always a good idea, guys);
  • Attended a fund-raising movie night (the chick-flick The Blind Side, was very good);
  • Learned to strum the chords for “Hotel California” and “Stand By Me” on my guitar;
  • Hosted my wife’s best friend from primary & secondary school in our home for the first time;
  • Attended my two son’s school holiday programme drama production “Turn Back the Clock”;
  • Attended a mid-winter Christmas party put on by our neighbours at the Grenada Village Community Hall;


World Outreach



  • BEREAVEMENTS.  Dorothy Chismon’s 88 year old Mum passed away un-expectantly in NZ this week from a suspected brain aneurism.  Dorothy has been able to change her schedule so as to arrive in time for the funeral this Saturday.  Please uplift Dorothy (& family) in prayer during this sad time. Also remember to keep H & B before the Lord in prayer as they adjust to life without their precious (& only) son, (19yrs), who passed away suddenly earlier this month.
  • EAST AFRICA.  Chris, Nadine and Matthew Brittain have just completed the WO 6 week NATIONS training course in Thailand and are about to touch down in Kenya to set up home and the new WO East Africa base.  They write:  “Can we ask the WOI family to pray for us as we arrive in Kenya this coming Monday to begin mission mobilization. We are very grateful for the Nations course which has been excellent preparation.  We would like prayer for finding suitable accommodation, a car and that we start well.  Thanks.”
  • S’PORE.  This August 02-05 the World Outreach International Vision Team meet to sign off on a number of policies /  procedures / programs that are outcomes of our WO2010 journey.  The following week (Aug 10-13) the WOI Mission Council meets as part of its 2 annual gatherings. Please pray for all those involved and pray that these two weeks of leadership meetings will be mightily blessed of the Lord resulting in great outcomes that will help the many ministries in WO go forward with greater confidence and effectiveness – Praise the Lord!
  • INDONESIA. Continue to pray for God’s provision for the purchase of the campus land on Mount Tawangmangu in Central Java. Sam & Carol Soukotta are very grateful to those who are praying and who have contributed to the fund to buy the land on which the Tawangmangu Bible College premises are located. To date around half of USD330K has been received / pledged.  The deadline for full payment is January 2011. Please keep praying that the necessary funds will be forthcoming and this marvellous facility will continue to be used to train up Godly men & women for ministry service in Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim populated nation.


  • THAILAND. Testimonies from the 19 ‘students’ at the recently concluded 6 week WO Int Nations Training Course (NTC) in northern Thailand, are full of praise for how they all benefited from these studies.  Participants were from Nth India, Thailand, Australia, Malaysia, and all raved about the excellent material.  Lorraine Dierck who heads this WO training ministry, says that this course was the best yet.  The next 6 week NTC is set for Christchurch, NZ mid January to 3rd week of February. Email Lorraine for more info.

John Elliott
International Director

Koinonia House News



  • Olympia Food Co-op Is Boycotting Israeli Products And Tutu Agrees
    July 28, 2010
    South African Nobel laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu said on Wednesday that he supports the Olympia Food Co-op’s boycott of Israeli products. The Olympia Food Co-op, located in Olympia, Washington, announced last week that no Israeli products would be sold at its two grocery stores in the city.
    – Haaretz
  • Christian Graduate Counselling Student Expelled for Opposition to Homosexuality
    July 28, 2010
    A federal judge has ruled in favour of a public university that removed a Christian student from its graduate program in school counselling over her belief that homosexuality is morally wrong. Monday’s ruling, according to Julea Ward’s attorneys, could result in Christian students across the country being expelled from public university for similar views. “Christian students shouldn’t be expelled for holding to and abiding by their beliefs,” said ADF senior counsel David French. “To reach its decision, the court had to do something that’s never been done in federal court: uphold an extremely broad and vague university speech code.”
    – Fox News
  • Judge Puts Damper on AZ Law
    July 28, 2010
    A federal judge stepped into the fight over Arizona’s immigration law at the last minute Wednesday, blocking the heart of the measure and defusing a confrontation between police and thousands of activists that had been building for months. Coming just hours before the law was to take effect, the ruling isn’t the end. It sets up a lengthy legal battle that could end up before the Supreme Court — ensuring that a law that reignited the immigration debate, inspired similar measures nationwide, created fodder for political campaigns and raised tensions with Mexico will stay in the spotlight.
    – AP
  • Boy Scout Jamboree This Year Celebrates 100th Anniversary
    July 28, 2010
    Franks said Fort A.P. Hill becomes a city of 90,000 people every four years when the jamboree is held there. Scouts from throughout the world participate in hundreds of activities like scuba diving, camping, shooting and other outdoor activities associated with scouting. Scouts have the opportunity to work toward any badge offered by the organization including alpine skiing, Franks said. “This year is to celebrate the 100th anniversary of scouting,” Franks said. “Traditionally, the jamboree is a way of bringing scouts across the country together to share in scouting skills and share in the fellowship of scouting.”
    – The Daily Reflector
  • Ahmadinejad Ready to Negotiate
    July 27, 2010
    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad abandoned preconditions for talks over Iran’s nuclear program late Monday, saying talks would start in early September regardless of the conditions he had set. Ahmadinejad last month gave conditions for talks with the UN Security Council and Germany including their stance on Israel’s nuclear program and Iran. Ahmedinajad told state TV late Monday, however, that Iran would “follow negotiations” whether or not the conditions are met.
    – The Jerusalem Post
  • Obama Chooses The View Over the Boy Scouts
    July 26, 2010
    President Barack Obama, the honorary chairman of the Boy Scouts of America, will not speak in-person before the group on Wednesday at Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia, as part of the organization’s 100th anniversary celebration. However, the president is sending a videotaped message to the scouts for Wednesday, the same day he will be in Manhattan to tape an appearance for ABC TV’s talk show “The View.”
    – CNS News

Why I Am A Climate Realist

Climate Conversation Group

Gluckman’s disreputable science

The government’s Chief Science Advisor (CSA), Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, treats climate questioners as “deniers.” Such tactics are the antithesis of science and deserve the firmest reproach.

His attitude emerges from an analysis of a headline speech he gave on June 9, entitled “Integrity in Science: Implications from and for the Climate Change Debate” in which he raised the topic of people sceptical of the science of global warming, justified labelling them “deniers” yet gave no evidence of the reality of dangerous human interference in the climate.

The analysis, by Richard Treadgold, Convenor of the Climate Conversation Group, in association with scientists of the NZ Climate Science Coalition, is available at Gluckman stumbles, Part 2 – Sludge. Or at a shorter URL:

At the same time, in a related and astonishing development, the CSA and the Royal Society reveal that they refuse to talk seriously to people about climate change. Since early this year, Dr Doug Edmeades, on behalf of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, has been trying to engage our CSA, Sir Peter Gluckman, and/or the Royal Society in a conversation about global warming.

Regrettably, they have just confirmed their refusal even to talk to us, so it is time to bring the matter to the public. It is clear there have been serious failures in our public science framework in its handling of climate change. We now reveal to the people of New Zealand just how unkindly and unjustly their top scientist deals with those who disagree with him. Many will be surprised to hear the unscientific details.

Richard Treadgold
Climate Conversation Group

Murrays Bay
Auckland, NZ.

Why I Am A Creationist


As you read this thousands have already been reached

After many years in the planning, we are incredibly excited at something that is taking place right now. CMI’s Dr David Catchpoole is currently in the early stages of a two-month ministry tour delivering the creation message in Indonesia. He is preaching in Indonesian—David spent many years working in Indonesia, and his wife Esther is Indonesian, and through attending an Indonesian-language church the last few years, his language skills have been refreshed and honed. After just a few days there, David has already spoken to over 3,000, but by the end we estimate that approximately 20,000 people will have heard him speak (and quite possibly more).

Read The (long) road to Indonesia.

A call to prayer

Many don’t realize that the islands that make up Indonesia (one of Australia’s closest neighbors) constitute the world’s most populous Muslim nation. But with a total population in excess of 200 million, the Christian minority is nevertheless huge, and feeling pressure for their faith from many directions—not the least being the increasing teaching of evolution that challenges the foundations of the gospel. The hunger, and the excitement at the message, has been immense already. Please pray for David and his wife during this long arduous tour, and also for their children who remain back home in Australia. Their tour schedule can be viewed here.

A special effort

Hearing the message is one thing, but CMI’s ministry methodology has always been about getting resources into people’s hands. We know from over 32 years of ministry feedback that the life-changing resources we take along multiply the ministry outreach when they get shared around among family members and friends. For this reason CMI commissioned special translations of the Creation Answers Book and Stones and Bones for this trip, locally printed and suitably priced. The hunger with which they were taken up in the early meetings looks like we will have to reprint to meet demand on this tour. Praise God!
You can read an article and early report on this incredible ministry opportunity called The (long) road to Indonesia that provides more insight than we can explain in this short Infobytes. It also contains short clips on David speaking in Indonesian and a video from a young Indonesian man who shares how David’s ministry impacted his life. He wrote:

“I am so grateful to Dr David Catchpoole … because he was able to help me to understand that the creation by God in the book of Genesis is indeed the truth and fact, therefore, it is not a fairy tale, and it cannot be denied by anyone even by evolutionist.”

“All the sermons and seminars run by Creation Ministries have helped me immensely and I am certain it will also help our friends in Indonesia to have a better understanding that evolutionism is truly misleading. I honestly worry because evolutionism is still taught at every school in Indonesia, started at primary level all the way to high school level even to university level.”

Another CMI initiative

Although CMI speakers from our various offices have ministered in many countries around the world as diverse as Namibia, Holland, Romania, China, Russia, Fiji, Malaysia, the scope and potential of this Indonesian tour is huge. We thank you for your support of all of our offices that allows such exciting opportunities to happen. In fact, CMI’s Dr Rob Carter only just returned from a ministry trip to Dominica (an island nation in the Caribbean Sea). Stay tuned for his report on that soon.

How to… 

…Engage the Culture

Chicken Came First!

Hi James

Check this out.

If evolution was accurate and true, then the egg ought to have come first. Evolution means the change from evolution is passed to the surviving species, which means gradual change at the time an egg is laid.

However, it is now seen by scientists that the chicken came first – meaning scientists cannot explain in evolutionary theory how the chicken came to exist first.

Creation science, however, believes in God’s divine hand in creation. That would concur with the concept that the chicken came first.


Great Scientists…

…Who Believed the Bible

William Thompson, Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)

Lord Kelvin is considered one of the all-time great physicists. He established thermodynamics on a formal scientific basis, providing a precise statement of the first and second laws of thermodynamics. Lord Kelvin was a strong Christian, opposing both Lyellian uniformitarianism and Darwinian evolution. In 1903, shortly before his death, he made the unequivocal statement that, “With regard to the origin of life, science…positively affirms creative power.”

Friday Fax


UN Committee Attacks Motherhood, Demands New “Rights” for Women

By Terrence McKeegan, J.D.

NEW YORK, July 29 (C-FAM)  A United Nations (UN) treaty committee notorious for its promotion of abortion and ideological positions not supported by UN treaties, concludes its session this week after launching attacks on motherhood and traditional gender roles, while calling for an ever-expanded array of new sexual and reproductive “rights”.  The session was especially notable for the statement by the Russian Federation, which reported that decreasing abortion rates were helping to decrease the overall maternal mortality rates in that country.

Latin American Economic Summit Promotes Abortion, Condemns “Lesbophobia”

By Amanda Pawloski and Susan Yoshihara, Ph.D.

NEW YORK, July 29 (C-FAM)  A recent gathering of Latin America’s top economic commission issued a document praising secularism, condemning “lesbophobia,” calling for redistributive social systems, and liberally promoting sexual and reproductive rights. Delegates from more than 30 Latin American and Caribbean countries attended the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean’s (ECLAC) Eleventh Session of the Regional Conference on Women in Brazil. The purpose of the conference was to address gender equality and women’s empowerment in economic terms. The delegates were mainly “gender” advisors, representing the government of member states.

Train a Child


In July,

  • Tane & Hamish enrolled in a school holiday (ironic) programme.  They learned a new drama, called Turn Back the Clock.  They performed it at Newtown Community Hall.
  • Aimee had a couple of sleepovers.
  • I was gently rebuked by a stranger for my attitude (disparaging) towards daughter.  This will improve.

Why I Am Pro-Israel


Dear Friend of Jerusalem,

Here are the latest headlines from the One Jerusalem Blog:

Sincerely, The One Jerusalem Team


Worried your Super will run short?

Senior health care solution

So you’re a sick senior citizen and the government says there is no nursing home available for you – what do you do?

Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. You are allowed to shoot 2 MP’s and 2 illegal immigrants!  

Of course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head, central heating,  air conditioning and all the health care you need!  New teeth – no problem.  Need glasses, great.  New hip, knees, kidney, lungs, heart?  All covered. (And your kids can come and visit you as often as they do now).

And who will be paying for all of this?  The same government that just told you that you they cannot afford for you to go into a home.

Plus, because you are a prisoner, you don’t have to pay any income taxes anymore.



New Job At The Zoo

A bloke starts his new job at the zoo and is given three tasks.

The first is to clear the exotic fish pool of weeds. As he does this a huge fish jumps out and bites him. To show the others who’s boss, he beats it to death with a spade. Realizing his employer won’t be best pleased he disposes of the fish by feeding it to the lions, as lions will eat anything.

Moving on to the second job of clearing out the Chimp house, he is attacked by the chimps who pelt him with coconuts. He swipes at two chimps with a spade, killing them both. What can he do? Feed them to the lions, he says to himself, because lions eat anything. He hurls the corpses into the lion enclosure.

He moves on to the last job which is to collect honey from the South American Bees. As soon as he starts he is attacked by the bees. He grabs the spade and smashes the bees to a pulp. By now he knows what to do and throws them into the lion’s cage – because lions eat anything.

Later that day a new lion arrives at the zoo. He wanders up to another lion and says, “What’s the food like here?”

The other lions say, “Absolutely brilliant. Today we had fish and chimps with mushy bees.”

Events Schedule

In this section, I highlight dates, times and venues of events either I am presenting at, or of interest to METTLE.  I’m available for bookings.

Date Event Venue Speaker
2-Aug-10 Maori Group Elim International Christian Church Regina Tito
9-Aug-10 Grenada Village Residents Association Meeting Grenada Village Community Hall Bruce Patterson
12-Aug-10 WHEN AGM WHEN Library All
18-Aug-10 James and Tane leave to go skiing! National Park None


Gave this testimony at Align Church

What it means to me to be a Maori Christian

Introduction (2 min)

  • Gave my mihi last month
  • I want to share about my (on-going) journey of discovering what it means to be a Maori Christian
  • Not holding myself up as a model Maori at all: don’t korero (much)
  • But I have researched and talked through this subject with some kaumatua[1] I respect and have something to say.

Do I have to give up my Maori-ness to be a Christian? (3 mins)

  • No more so than any other culture!
  • E.g. shellfish: we are Gentile believers, not Jewish. Therefore: not saved by works but by grace alone.
  • E.g. carving: like English photographs of ancestors. Not automatically evil. Not necessarily an idol. Can become one, like a photograph can be pornographic.
  • I have been to South Africa. I have met black SA Christians and white SA Christians. Both sides are amazed that the other side calls themselves Christian! E.g. waste vs. theft.

Are any parts of Maoridom absolutely opposite to Christianity? (2 mins)

  • Makutu: cursing can only come from Satan
  • Drugs: desecrating the temple of the Holy Spirit
  • Sex before marriage: not God’s plan for a holy family

What parts of Maoridom are God-honouring? (3 mins)

  • Art: (carving, singing, dancing, etc.) can bless or curse
  • Oral tradition: an example from Genesis
  • Whakapapa: mine goes back to 30AD!
  • Whanau: including te awhina ora (maori adoption) are examples of extended family, particularly biblical

[1] Sam Chapman, Monte Ohia, Kim Workman

Bible Reading

You can look up for yourselves at:

End Notes

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Geek Post Monthly Newsletter Volume 2 Issue 7

Geek Post

Volume 2 Issue 7

July 2010

Hippolite Musings

Tena Koutou Katoa,

In July, I:

  • Added the new GST rate (effective 1-Oct) to a major pricing database;
  • Farewelled a long-term contractor;
  • Took back ownership of all his project work;
  • Progressed a major data conversion project;
  • Secured major funding for my team (sufficient for a new full-time equivalent) through negotiating a Maintenance Support Work Packet internally with other Telecom business units;
  • Attended the Internet Industry Awards 2010 at Parliament;


Community Development

Grenada Village Online

  • The Association has been involved in a legal dispute over the proposed use of newly cleared land in our area.  This is heading to a show-down.  A public meeting will be called soon.  I can’t say too much more than that. 
  • Stay tuned.  Keep an eye on late-breaking news on the website link above.  It should all come out by next month.

Align Church Online

  • I’m stuck on adding functionality which will enable me to display photos (not hard) and insert photos (not hard) and add photos to an existing record (finding it difficult to do this in a GridView).
  • I’ve also been asked to remove functionality for “security” reasons.  Bah humbug.
  • I also don’t listen to the users (my wife) carefully enough (apparently) and misdiagnosed a function and have to re-do it.  Grrrr
            <asp:BoundField HeaderText="Name" DataField="Name" />
            <asp:BoundField HeaderText="Birthday" DataField="BirthDate" DataFormatString="{0:d}" />
            <asp:BoundField HeaderText="Mobile" DataField="Mobile" />
            <asp:BoundField HeaderText="Comments" DataField="Comments" />
            <asp:TemplateField HeaderText="Photo">
                    <asp:Image ID="PhotoImage" runat="server" ImageUrl='<%# Bind("imgFile") %>' Width="100" />
                    <asp:FileUpload ID="fileUpload1" runat="server" />

Wellington Home Education Network

  • I’m manually editing PHP in Visual Studio without the use of a PHP editor. 
  • Managed to reduce the size of the email which is sent from the Application Form, by eliminating the fields that aren’t actually used.
  • Managed to find the magic Headers which turn a Plain Text email into HTML.
  • Instead of tabs between field name and value, now I’m outputting a table.  Much tidier.
                        function FindVal($fieldName, $varName)
                                $varValue = $_POST[$varName];
                                    return "<tr><td>$fieldName</td><td>$varValue</td></tr>\n";
                                    return "";
                                return "";
                        $from            = $HTTP_POST_VARS['EmailAddress'];
                        $headers        = 'MIME-Version: 1.0' . "\r\n";
                        $headers        .= 'Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1' . "\r\n";
                        $headers        .= "From: $from"."\r\n";

Wellington SQL Server Users Group

  • We had Chandima Kulathilake from Knowledge Cue Ltd come and tell us about SharePoint 2010 Databases – What are they and why are they required?

Wellington Dot Net Users Group

  • Bevan Arps from Reserve Bank came and told us about Build Automation with NAnt.
  • Kirk Jackson (Xero) and Graeme Neilson (Aura Software Security) came and told us Tales from the Crypt0
  • Bohdan Szymanik from KiwiBank came and told us about F# in Action

Developer News


This may be of use.  Martin particularly likes the window connection colouring, search in grid results and generate insert statements.

Study News

Not much has changed from last month.

Still working my way through MCTS Exam 70-503 – Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 – Windows Communication Foundation.

Up to chapter 8.

Very slow going.  Lab examples suck.  Even with a Virtual Machine with exactly the right environment, the labs fail.  Security is soooo hard to get right.

Telecom News

As alluded to in my opening paragraph, the financial year ended in June, and a new one commenced.  A round of budgetary begging occurred.  I contributed.  My team won some well-earned dosh.

This probably means I’ll be doing more support work (officially) and less new developments, which is probably for the best in the current environment.  Nobody knows about Physical Separation, so investment in new development work (especially across business units) will have to slow down.

This is all speculation, but hopefully interesting speculation.

Microsoft News

A summary of significant Microsoft chatter:

  • Not going to Tech-Ed next month (sniff).  Not my turn.
  • Reading about the Model-View-ViewModel (MSDN Magazine, March 2009 & July 2010).  I need to be doing this stuff, in order to separate code from implementation and improve testing.
  • Not coding F#, but still straddling C# and VB.NET.
  • I was an Imagine Cup mentor last year, but as all the meetings were held in Auckland, there didn’t seem a point to re-sign up for it this year.
  • Windows 7 Dev?  Not on my radar.
  • IE9?  Telecom only just upgraded to IE7!

Situations Vacant

Analyst Developer .NET

Make it happen

Work with industry leading technology, tools, and methodologies and let your talents shine.  Join a productive team that provides both development and support for some of Telecom’s core applications.  You’ll own enhancements to the functionality of the existing application, plus have the benefit of experienced developers to mentor your progression through your career milestones!

Work with customised technologies, in a dynamic and collaborative team environment, where your actions have a direct impact on what happens in the wider business.  Support and enhance the application as you troubleshoot, overcome incidents and diagnose issues.  Get involved in projects as you take a concept from brief to reality, actioning enhancements.  

You’ve gained credible commercial .NET development and coding experience in a large scale environment.  You’re hungry to continue learning and build on your qualifications.  Technically savvy with HTML, SQL and Sharepoint, you’re known for commitment as you take ownership of the issue until it’s been efficiently resolved while keeping all who are impacted up to date. 

In this Wellington based role you’ll join our Application Delivery team who work with both an operational and project focus to produce accurate and efficient code.  We design, develop and implement quality business solutions to support Telecom’s strategic business objectives

Want to work where it all happens?  Apply today.


Senior Technology Consultant

You’re the expert

It’s a great feeling to be valued for your expert knowledge and advice. Customers and colleagues alike look to you to show them the way. Join our Consulting and Design team and get the recognition you deserve.  

Your customers look to you to match high quality technical knowledge to their business drivers to create valuable technology solutions.  Be the most trusted of advisors as you consult on the issues that matter to them. Work at a variety of levels, from presenting whitepapers to the nitty gritty of technical designing.

Significant experience in an ICT vendor environment is a given. Your knowledge of Microsoft networking, virtualization, thin client and storage technologies and ideally Citrix is robust.  Equally important as your superior technical design and delivery skills, is your ability to relate technical solutions to business outcomes. You have excellent communication and written skills plus a strong customer focus. Your experience with infrastructure strategic planning and technical evaluation is impressive.

Providing a breadth of services unparalleled in the New Zealand market, Gen-i is NZ’s ICT market leader.  This Wellington-based role sits within our high-performing Consulting and Design team.  We help organisations generate greater value from their IT spend by offering innovative solutions for the issues important to them.

Be valued for your expertise.  Apply today.

Training News

A summary of Signification Microsoft Learning Chatter

  • July is an exciting month where Microsoft Learning just announced the brand new MTA Certification for academic students, New OneNote Trainer Packs that enable MCTs to prepare for courses and to take and share notes AND we are getting ready to launch a completely revised Courseware Library.
  • Microsoft is pleased to announce the launch of Microsoft Office Specialist (MOS) 2010.
    Review the planned MOS 2010 exams and get ready to certify for MOS 2010.
  • Keep your technical skills up to date with help from the latest training opportunity for SharePoint 2010. In this new training course on Channel 9, you’ll explore design considerations to keep in mind as you start creating SharePoint solutions targeting SharePoint 2010. Additional videos, labs, and code available to help you learn more about SharePoint testing, deployment, and security.


A summary of Significant Dot Net User Group Chatter

  • Developer NetBook (6 replies)
  • .NET Express Edition & Commercial Software (10 replies)
  • Integrated EFTPOS (5 replies)


A summary of  Significant SQL Server User Group Chatter

  • DB Compare Tool (10 replies)
  • DB Script Extract Tool(13 replies)
  • MSSQL and Schemas (6 replies)

Events Schedule

In this section, I highlight dates, times and venues of events either I am presenting at, or of interest to Geeks.  I’m available for bookings.

Date Event Venue Speaker
11-Aug-10 Windows Phone 7 Wellington .NET, Xero Kevin Daly
25-Aug-10 Advanced Azure Techniques Wellington .NET, Xero Dave Fellows
29-Aug-10 Code Camp (TBA) SkyCity Convention Centre, Auckland Lots
30-Aug-10 to 01-Sep-10 Microsoft TechEd 2010 SkyCity Convention Centre, Auckland Lots
8-11 Nov 2010 PASS Summit 2010 Seattle, Washington, USA Lots
April 2011 ALM Conference Wellington Various



Put about 100 bricks in some particular order in a closed room with an open window. Then send 2-3 candidates into the room and close it from outside.
Leave them alone and come back after 6 hours, and then analyze the situation:

  1. If they are counting and recounting the number of bricks – PUT THEM IN ACCOUNTS.
  2. If they have messed up the whole place with the bricks – PUT THEM IN ENGINEERING.
  3. If they are arranging the bricks in some other order – PUT THEM IN PLANNING.
  4. If they are throwing the bricks at each other – PUT THEM IN OPERATIONS.
  5. If they are sleeping – PUT THEM IN SECURITY.
  6. If they have broken the bricks into pieces – PUT THEM IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
  7. If they are sitting idle – PUT THEM IN THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.
  8. If they have thrown the bricks out of the window – PUT THEM IN THE MATERIALS DEPARTMENT.
  9. If they have already left for the day – PUT THEM IN MARKETING.
  10. If they are talking to each other and not a single brick has moved – PUT THEM IN TOP MANAGEMENT !!!!

METTLE Monthly Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 6


Volume 5 Issue 6

June 2010

Hippolite Musings 


In June, I managed to:

  • Wish farewell to several staff here at Telecom;
  • Watch a locally made file “The China Cup”;
  • Attend a mediation between parties in a dispute;
  • Participate in the Wellington Home Education Network annual Science Fair;
  • Take minutes at Northern Racquets Squash Club committee meeting;
  • Take minutes at Grenada Village Residents Association committee meeting;
  • Fully engage in Align Church leaders meeting;
  • Convince my manager to shell out for a team lunch;
  • Witness my niece’s baptism;
  • Protest the Emissions Trading Scheme (with 100 farmers);
  • Walkover site of land in dispute; and
  • Be blessed by a couple of my wife’s most excellent dinner parties.


World Outreach



  • BANGLADESH. David Elliott is leading a team of Bible College students on various outreaches in Bangladesh at this time and would appreciate prayer for the team’s well being, for favour with locals as they share, for a rich anointing of the Holy Spirit to be on their ministry times and that they will be a great blessing and encouragement to all they come in contact with.
  • Shuken & Puspa, leaders of Generation Ministries in Bangladesh, ask for prayer for their annual “Teen Time” conference starting July 01. They and the whole Gen. Ministries team are very excited about this event and ask us to pray with them that hundreds of young people will come to find and follow Jesus. 
  • Vijaya Chowdhuri would also appreciate prayer as she continues to come to terms with the loss of her precious Biswanath (last February) and the challenges of taking up his directorship role of Christian Discipleship Centre in Dhaka. 
  • INDONESIA. Continue to pray for God’s provision for the purchase of the campus land on Mount Tawangmangu in Central Java. Sam & Carol Soukotta are very grateful to those who are praying and who have contributed to the fund to buy the land on which the Tawangmangu Bible College premises are located. To date around half of USD330K has been received / pledged.  The deadline for full payment is January 2011. Please keep praying that the necessary funds will be forthcoming and this marvellous facility will continue to be used to train up Godly men & women for ministry service in Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim populated nation. 
  • KEY POSITION. Please keep praying that the right person will be found soon for the position of WO Operations Director.  We believe the Holy Spirit is already stirring someone’s heart in preparation for this call!   Please direct any interest to Luke Chong in the first instance.  The role of an Operations Director is a very key & important position in WOI, especially so with the organization steadily growing each year in both field personnel and ministries.  Please be praying with us for the right person.
  • STH AFRICA.  Many international & local Christian groups and organizations are in Sth Africa for the football World Cup targeting fans with the hope of sharing the Gospel.  Pray for a mighty harvest of souls for the Kingdom of God. Pray too for Sth Africa that this world cup event will be a means for the Holy Spirit to do something very special in this great land.  
  • IVORY COAST.  Janvier & Claudine Yokoinele write: “Our new school bus in now operational in our mission school here in Abidjan, Ivory Coast.  Please pray that we may raise the remaining Euros 6000 to complete payment for the bus and original set-up cost for the school.  We are ministering to many children who would not have had a chance to hear the gospel or see it modelled.”
  • BURKINA FASO. Joseph Dayamba writes: “We will gather more than 600 to 700 children in our camps this year. Please pray for the children and the teenagers as we are preparing them to reach out to the LRP in their areas, pray too for their physical and spiritual protection, that God opens their eyes to find the people of peace who the Holy Spirit has prepared their hearts, and pray that my ministry team will trust the Lord for all the challenges before us.
  • CONGO.  Gavin Porter writes: “I will be leaving on 1 July to Democratic Republic of Congo to teach God’s Vision God’s Mission to about 100 pastors in Lubumbashi. There are 5 people travelling with me. They will attend the classes as well as help with teaching and preaching in local congregations.  We are travelling the full distance by public transport via Zimbabwe and Zambia. We return again to Pretoria by 13 July.   Please pray for sufficient finances for each of the team members, for all the arrangements for accommodation and travelling, for a safe journey and God’s hand to be upon us, for the anointing of the Holy Spirit as we minister, for the pastors and leaders to be receptive to the Spirit and Word of God, and that God would confirm His word with signs and wonders as we minister in churches.”
  • NTH INDIA.  WO church planting teams in Manipur report that tension is increasing in the province. Some of our WO team have received death threats.  Please pray that law & order will be maintained, that Godly wisdom will prevail & for protection on those involved in sharing the Gospel.   
  • GERMANY.  Stefan Ross, friend of WO and Kairos National Coordinator for Germany, suffered a minor heart attack last week.  He is now recuperating but will need to go to a Rehabilitations Hospital for 3 weeks.  Please pray with us for Stefan’s full recovery and pray for his wife Helga that both will know the peace & presence of the Holy Spirit.

Koinonia House News



  • Fifth Century Paintings Of Apostles Found In Catacombs
    June 23, 2010
    Using new laser technology, archaeologists and art restorers have discovered what they believe are the oldest paintings of the faces of Jesus Christ’s apostles. The images in a branch of the catacombs of St Tecla near St Paul’s Basilica, just outside the walls of ancient Rome, were painted at the end of the 4th century or the start of the 5th century. The paintings have the same characteristics as later images, such as St Paul’s rugged, wrinkled and elongated forehead and balding head and pointy beard, indicating they may have been the ones which set the standard.
    – AP
  • Israel Will Not Boycott Turkish Goods
    June 23, 2010
    Israel’s biggest supermarket chains – Super-Sol, Blue Square and Rami Levy – will not boycott Turkish goods, they advised the Ministry of Industry, Trade and Labor. Earlier this week ministry director general Sharon Kedmi had asked the retailers to continue to sell Turkish products despite the mounting tension between Jerusalem and Ankara.
    – Haaretz
  • The Bible In Every Language Expected By 2025
    June 22, 2010
    A Christian endeavor of almost 2,000 years could be substantially completed by 2025. Protestant translators expect to have the Bible — or at least some of it — written in every one of the world’s 6,909 spoken languages. "We’re in the greatest period of acceleration in 20 centuries of Bible translation," said Morrison resident Paul Edwards, who heads up Wycliffe Bible Translators’ $1 billion Last Languages Campaign. Portable computers and satellites get the credit for speeding things up by about 125 years.
    – The Denver Post
  • Bush Criticizes North Korea’s Kim
    June 22, 2010
    Former US President George W Bush on Tuesday accused North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il of wasting his country’s precious resources on personal luxuries and nuclear weapons programs. North Koreans have been suffering since the Korean War ended, Bush told a prayer meeting to mark the 60th anniversary of the war’s outbreak. "While South Korea prospers, the people of North Korea have suffered profoundly," he said, adding communism had resulted in "dire poverty, mass starvation and brutal suppression".
    – AFP
  • Israel’s Bee-Keepers Used The Best Bees
    June 07, 2010
    The Bible didn’t dub it "a land flowing with milk and honey" for nothing. Not only are the oldest known beehives in the world in what is now Israel, but bee-keepers of the time selected the best bees for the job.
    – NewScientist

Why I Am A Climate Realist

Hello again Climate Realists,

Well, it’s been a busy two weeks!

First of all, may we say a very grateful thanks for all the messages of support we have received over the last little while.

It’s great to know there are so many people who  are on our side!
Some of you have indicated that you feel quite alone in your views- but please be encouraged, there are people all over the country who feel the same way.

The protest march in Wellington is over- here’s the report:

Firstly, a great big thank you to all of you who made the effort to be there- people from Auckland and even further north, a contingent from the Waikato,  friends from Dannevirke, Pahiatua, Taranaki, Hawkes Bay, Taihape, Blenheim…. and those were just the ones we spoke to!

Special thanks to Bob McCoskrie (Family First), Don Nicolson (Federated Farmers),  Vapi Kupenga (Maori Affairs-Kiwi Party), Robin Grieve (Pastural Farming Climate Research) and John Boscawen (Act MP) who spoke about the effects of the ETS on various different sectors of society. Thanks for making the effort!
Over the four days of the Fieldays we collected signatures for a large card which was presented to Rodney Hide and John Boscawen at the Tuesday protest. Heather Roy and David Garrett were also there in support.

Why is it that only Act MP’s feel able to meet us?

The card simply stated: "Please scrap the ETS" and had the picture often seen in parks when encouraging people to place their litter in bins- a person dropping a sheet of paper into a wire rubbish bin. We painted ‘ETS’ on the paper for good measure. Inside the card were well over 2,000 signatures collected over the four days of the Fieldays.

We found it generally fairly easy to collect signatures- about 50% of people willingly signed. 47-48% had no idea what the ETS is about. A very small 2-3% were definitely opposed to us and the stand we are taking.

Grateful thanks for those on the network who helped collect signatures; also those who circulated around the grounds distributing flyers about the protest.

Thanks are also due to the Act Party for allowing us to share their Fieldays booth at very short notice.

The protest started with at least 110 people (we counted!) and it was very heartening to discover that as we marched, some of the people on the streets joined in as they realised what we were on about. There were even more already waiting at Parliament.
The numbers weren’t as great as we had hoped, but we are certainly grateful to all those who made a sterling effort, and we applaud Brian Anselmi of Piopio who was the main organiser.
Thanks to Renton McLachlan who filmed the speeches and put them on Youtube- the links are below:

Why I Am A Creationist


Synthetic life—the death-knell of the Bible?

Many headlines have proclaimed that genome researcher Craig Venter made artificial life. We saw a number of atheopaths crowing that this disproves God. But the DNA software sequence was planned after analyzing an already existing microbe, the components joined with intricate chemistry largely based on proteins from living organisms, and the product was read with already existing cell machinery. Furthermore, even if a genuinely synthetic life form were made in the future, it would require intelligence, planning and foresight, not time and chance, so it would support the biblical creation model.

See Was life really created in a test tube? And does it disprove biblical creation? by Jonathan Sarfati (Ph.D., chemistry), as well as our Questions and Answers page on Origin of Life.

It’s conclusive. Neandertals are human

About ten years ago, the human genome was sequenced and published. It cost about 3 billion dollars and took a decade to finish. Genetics studies have advanced considerably since then, and we are now able to sequence DNA thousands of times faster for much less money. This has ushered in an age of ancient DNA studies that was unimaginable just a few short years ago. Ancient DNA is highly degraded and in old bones it is invariably broken into millions of short pieces. We can now sequence this DNA and on the forefront of this new wave was the recent publication of the Neandertal genome.

When we say “Neandertal”, what do most think? Primitive cave man? A half man/half ape creature living in a cave and walking all stooped over? Evidence against such ideas has been mounting for decades, but the Neandertal genome has finally put them to rest, for the Neandertal was human. And we don’t mean a little bit human, but fully human. And, according to the data, they were related to present-day people living in Eurasia! Find out more in our recent article published on neandertals—just like us by Dr Rob Carter.

The most precise clocks in the universe

It’s exciting to see creation scientists at the forefront of technological advances. For example, Dr Raymond Damadian pioneered MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) scanning technology that has revolutionized diagnostic medicine and helped save many lives.

Now university professor and CMI speaker, Dr John Hartnett’s work in developing atomic clocks (like the ones used aboard the International Space Station) has been recognized in the secular journals—even winning awards. Dr Hartnett is also author and co-author of the books Starlight, Time and the New Physics and Dismantling the Big Bang available from our store along with several of his DVDs.
For more on this mind-blowing technology and what it means read It’s about time.

Why aren’t there more people?

According evolutionists homo sapiens appeared anywhere from a million years to tens of thousands of years ago. If that’s the case, even using conservative growth rates there should be trillions of people around today. Population numbers have long been a problem for evolutionists. Read this short article Where have all the people gone?

A ‘key’ resource article for all creationists

Dr Don Batten’s article 101 evidences for a young age of the earth and the universe has become somewhat of a staple, that is, a key resource for creationists everywhere when defending the biblical creation dates. We have seen it referenced in quite a few other creationist articles.

And yes, this concise article lists over 101 easy-to-understand evidences that you can use to defend the faith. Moreover, just like all the articles on you can print it out and copy it as many times as you want. There could be few better articles with which to do such a thing.

How to… 

Engage an Atheist

I offer this dialogue, by way of example.  It took place via Twitter, an on-line chat service.  I am JamesHip.  “GodlessAtheist” was his chosen nom-de-plume.  At the end of this dialogue, I learned several things.  Enjoy!

Time From Comment
28/06/2010 13:56 JamesHip Can any atheist please explain how the creation of artificial life in a controlled environment by intelligent design disproves the Bible?
28/06/2010 14:02 GodlessAtheist Hi James. It doesn’t. The bible is flawed historically, mathematically, scientifically and biblically.
28/06/2010 14:07 GodlessAtheist Happy to answer any question you have for an atheist (fellow kiwi) if they are long go to
28/06/2010 14:13 JamesHip "The Bible is flawed… biblically"? That’s a neat trick. Only an illogically training atheist could think that up.
28/06/2010 14:15 GodlessAtheist What I mean by that is that the bible contradicts itself. This is a sign that either it is not a holy book or was mis…
28/06/2010 14:17 JamesHip So, just as your pithy statement required unpacking, so too does any apparent contradiction in the Bible.
28/06/2010 14:20 GodlessAtheist What do you mean by unpacking? Is that another word for spin? or something else?
28/06/2010 15:12 GodlessAtheist Most Christians say the resurrection is the most important story of the bible. Would you agree with that?
28/06/2010 22:53 JamesHip I would tend to argue that literal creation is at least as important as the resurrection, but I’ll go with you on that one.
28/06/2010 22:59 JamesHip BTW thanks for being honest and admitting that artificial life does not negate the Bible.
29/06/2010 5:51 GodlessAtheist According to the bible there are many different stories of what happened in the discovery of the Jesus’s tomb. Why?
29/06/2010 5:52 GodlessAtheist Not a problem.
29/06/2010 7:32 JamesHip Different eyewitness accounts. If they had exactly matched, you would have concluded collusion. QED reliable testimony.
29/06/2010 9:33 GodlessAtheist James you know better than to say that 4 stories that don’t match up proves they are reliable.
29/06/2010 11:10 JamesHip One person saw two angels. A second person saw only one. It’s a reasonable inference there was at least one.
29/06/2010 11:22 GodlessAtheist First things first. Does having 3-4 contradicting stories mean the evidence is reliable?
29/06/2010 11:51 JamesHip That’s precisely why we have trial by jury: to ascertain reliability. Contradictory or complementary? We are stalemate.
29/06/2010 11:58 GodlessAtheist You said "QED" because they vary they were reliable. I wanted to give you the chance to withdraw that.
29/06/2010 12:04 GodlessAtheist Here are a list of some of the contradictions about the resurrection
29/06/2010 12:24 JamesHip I said "QED" because it sounds brainier than "ergo". Mea culpa.
29/06/2010 12:31 JamesHip If that list had reasonable answers, would that matter to you? I suspect not cos you have Materialistic Faith. just sayin’
29/06/2010 13:52 GodlessAtheist It would not convince me.What I am trying to understand is why you are not worried about these or the hundreds of others?
30/06/2010 6:46 JamesHip I am convinced there is a reasonable explanation for each and every one of them, that’s why. It’s called Faith, admittedly.
30/06/2010 6:47 JamesHip But not a blind faith in random processes, like yours. Mine is a reasonable faith, I contend.
30/06/2010 10:49 GodlessAtheist If you have a reasonable explanation then faith is unnecessary. Faith is only required when evidence is insufficient
30/06/2010 10:50 GodlessAtheist Do you agree that if evidence is sufficient then faith is not required?
30/06/2010 15:41 JamesHip evidence is sufficient = "reached a conclusion" = "trusted the source". See the problem? Requires faith.
30/06/2010 16:43 GodlessAtheist Is it better to say "I don’t know" or "A magic man did it"?
30/06/2010 16:43 GodlessAtheist Scientists publish there findings &others try to show their mistakes. Creationist are afraid to publish.
30/06/2010 17:43 JamesHip Creationists publish and are ostracised ref: "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed"
30/06/2010 17:44 JamesHip There are two types of science: empirical vs. forensic. Empirical = testable, repeatable, observable. Forensic is not.
30/06/2010 17:48 GodlessAtheist There are times when we have to say we don’t know. It doesn’t mean that the god hypothesis is correct.
30/06/2010 17:49 JamesHip Origins debate is forensic. Darwin was spinning a yarn, which doesn’t hold up without huge leaps of faith.
30/06/2010 17:51 GodlessAtheist Example?
30/06/2010 17:52 JamesHip I would say, we are both logical, reasonable guys, who differ only in acceptance of worldview, not flaws in logic.
30/06/2010 17:56 JamesHip Example of Darwinian leap of faith? How did the first living (self-replicating) cell come into existence?
30/06/2010 18:59 GodlessAtheist Which book of Darwin have you read. He only ever talked about evolution not abiogenesis.
30/06/2010 20:55 JamesHip Surely you’re not trying to be disingenuous, after all the complements I’ve given your intelligence?
30/06/2010 21:24 GodlessAtheist No. Darwin’s work was about how animals evolved. He never made claims about the origins of life.

At this point, I chose to disengage, because I realised several points:

  • I’m not as clever as I’d like to believe.  He called me on my “QED” misquote.
  • He was being disingenuous, and not really being intellectually honest.  After all, the title of Darwin’s book is “On the Origins of Species…”
  • He had already confirmed my original question: that artificial life in the lab doesn’t disprove the Bible.
  • He didn’t like what I had to say about his belief in Atheism is no less a religious faith than mine.
  • I found this exchange worth-while.  I have to believe that of the combination of his followers and mine, that somebody was edified by my stand.
  • That regardless of whether I win or lose a battle, at least I’m engaged!

Great Scientists…

…Who Believed the Bible

Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)

Louis Pasteur was the father of bacteriology. He established the germ theory of disease. His persistent objections to the theory of spontaneous generation and to Darwinism made him unpopular with the scientific establishment of his day. He was a Christian with extremely strong religious convictions.

Friday Fax


UN Office of Human Rights Continues Drum Beat for New Human Right to Maternal Health

By Samantha Singson

GENEVA, June 24th (C-FAM)  The Office of the High Commissioner on Human Rights (OHCHR) has presented a new report to the United Nations (UN) Human Rights Council on "Preventable Maternal Mortality and Morbidity and Human Rights" that calls for a new “right” to maternal health.

The pro-abortion Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) heralded the new report and boasted of having a "leading role" in getting maternal mortality put on the human rights agenda. CRR organized three panels on implanting a “human rights-based approach” to reducing maternal mortality at the recent Women Deliver 2 conference.    

US Administration Launches All-Out International Homosexual “Rights” Offensive

By Terrence McKeegan, J.D.

WASHINGTON DC, June 24th (C-FAM)  United States (US) Secretary of State Hillary Clinton addressed a reception at the State Department, proclaiming that “human rights are gay rights and gay rights are human rights, once and for all.”  The reception celebrated “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month,” as was officially proclaimed by President Barack Obama for the month of June, and follows a recent incident at the United Nations (UN) where U.S. representatives made loud demands for immediate action on accrediting a homosexual “rights” group to the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC).  

Train a Child


In June,

  • Tane is learning to be a great big brother, and not just to his own siblings.  At many WHEN events, he is looked up to (literally and figuratively).  At swimming lessons, he is learning to play water polo.  He has surpassed Fiona’s height.  Now that his bedroom is downstairs, I have to be careful not to exclude him from family matters.  I have to make a conscious effort to remember (and remind him) that he matters to us.

  • Hamish participated in the Wellington Home Education Network annual Science Fair.  He created a presentation around his plasma lamp.  He researched (Googled) what a plasma lamp was, how it worked and demoed putting an ordinary (unplugged) light bulb in close proximity to the plasma lamp.  His little friends were delighted to see the unplugged lamp glowing.  Hamish was able to explain how the slight radiation around the plasma lamp excites the gasses inside the other bulb.

  • Aimée continues to excel at reading, handwriting and art (all the fine-motor skills).  Having to force her to go to her own bed to sleep (had a sleep-over in Hamish’s room recently), but she talks too much for him.  He likes his sleep.

    Why I Am Pro-Israel


    Dear Friend of Jerusalem,

    Here are the latest headlines from the One Jerusalem Blog:



    1. A thief broke into the local police station and stole all the toilets and urinals, leaving no clues. A spokesperson was quoted as saying, "We have absolutely nothing to go on."
    2. Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire… and so we’ll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
    3. A man rushed into a busy doctor’s office and shouted, "Doctor! I think I’m shrinking!" The doctor calmly responded, "Now, settle down. You’ll just have to be a little patient."
    4. A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises.
    5. Back in the 1800’s the Tate’s Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California. This, of course, is the origin of the expression: "He who has a Tate’s is lost!"
    6. King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, "I’ll give you 100,000 dinars for it." "But I paid a million dinars for it," the King protested. "Don’t you know who I am? I am the king!" Croesus replied, "When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are."
    7. An Indian chief was feeling very sick, so he summoned the medicine man. After a brief examination, the medicine man took out a long, thin strip of elk rawhide and gave it to the chief, telling him to bite off, chew, and swallow one inch of the leather every day. After a month, the medicine man returned to see how the chief was feeling. The chief shrugged and said, "The thong is ended, but the malady lingers on."
    8. A famous Viking explorer returned home from a voyage and found his name missing from the town register. His wife insisted on complaining to the local civic official who apologised profusely saying, "I must have taken Leif off my census."
    9. There were three Indian squaws. One slept on a deer skin, one slept on an elk skin, and the third slept on a hippopotamus skin. All three became pregnant. The first two each had a baby boy. The one who slept on the hippopotamus skin had twin boys. This just goes to prove that… the squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides.
    10. A sceptical anthropologist was cataloguing South American folk remedies with the assistance of a tribal Brujo who indicated that the leaves of a particular fern were a sure cure for any case of constipation. When the anthropologist expressed his doubts, the Brujo looked him in the eye and said, "Let me tell you, with fronds like these, you don’t need enemas."

    Events Schedule


    In this section, I highlight dates, times and venues of events either I am presenting at, or of interest to METTLE.  I’m available for bookings.

    Date Event Venue Speaker
    3-Jul-10 Intermediate Student Concert Raroa Intermediate School Tane (Sax)
    7-Jul-10 Align Church Prayer Meeting Hippolite Residence All
    8-10 Jul Northern Squash Tournament Newlands College N/A
    17-Jul-10 Ella and Duncan’s Engagement party Studio 6, Wellington Elim Church N/A
    19-Jul-10 The Blind Side charity movie screening The Light House Cinema, Petone N/A
    21-23 Jul Turn Back the Clock Show Newtown Community Centre Kids4Drama
    24-Jul-10 Beginners Student Concert Raroa Intermediate School Hamish (Guitar)
    5-Aug-10 WHEN AGM WHEN Library All

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    METTLE Survey



    It dawned on me that the request to prepare a single lesson plan for a Creation Syllabus was a bit silly.  I realise now that the entire Creation topic is a worthy cause for a Special Interest Group to form and have regular meetings.  This might also strengthen the weakness I saw happening at the end to the METTLE lunch meetings: a lack of direction.  


    Accordingly, I ask that you complete the following survey to gauge your opinions about this idea.  Please respond by Wednesday 24 December 2008.



    Your Response

    1. Would you consider attending a meeting (either regularly or semi-regularly) on the topic of Creation Research?

    Yes / No

    2. Frequency?

    Monthly, Fortnightly, Weekly

    3. Location?

    CBD, Suburban Home

    4. Week Night?

    Mon, Tues, Wed, Thu, Fri

    5. What topics to you want to see addressed (either by local or guest presenters)?

    Age of Earth

    Fossil Evidence

    Biblical Archaeology

    Refuting Evolution

    Evidence for Noah’s Flood

    Intelligent Design


    Other (Please specify)

    6. Would you consider presenting on a topic to the group?

    Yes / No

    7. Which topic would you be prepared to present?


    8. Would having special presenters (qualified scientists) encourage you to bring along a Non-Creationist?

    Yes / No

    9. If you answered no to question 8 above, what would it take to encourage you to bring a non-Creationist to the group?


    10. Would the promise of sponsored food and drink encourage you to attend?

    Yes / No

    11. Would you or your organisation consider being a sponsor for this group?

    Yes / No

    12. What would be a catchy (succinct, meaningful) name for this group?


    Wellington Creationists Group

    Wellington Intelligent Design Team


    13. We would need a lecture room with after-hours access and overhead projector.  Are you able to assist with venue requirements?

    Yes / No

    14. I am thinking of asking to affiliate this group with both Elim International Church and/or Creation Ministries International.  Do you have an opinion about that?


    15. Any other thoughts you have?