METTLE Weekly Newsletter Volume 4 Issue 18


Volume 4 Issue 18

Monday 11 May 2009

Hippolite Musings


Thought for the Day


This week’s issue comes late, as this past week has been another period of extreme activity.

On Tuesday, I journeyed to Masterton to play Winter Interclub squash. My team captain report can be read here.

On Friday, I commenced in earnest a new project at work that will require overtime to deliver by month’s end.

On Saturday, I finally got together with my middle son Hamish to commence his Science Fair project: which vegetables make the best dyes?

On Sunday, my eldest son Tane and I enjoyed the movie Star Trek.  I shan’t spoil it for any of my friends by reviewing it.  Plenty of others have already done that.  Suffice to say, I think it’s great.



Foreign Correspondent


IPPF’s UN Petition Drive Targets Youth, Demands Broad “Sexual Rights”

by Samantha Singson

(NEW YORK – C-FAM)  The International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF) recently launched a new petition campaign that aims to pressure governments to “promote, protect and fulfill their promise to provide better access to sexual and reproductive health services” for all young people “regardless of age.” The petition was launched in commemoration of the fifteenth anniversary of the International Conference on Population and Development (Cairo, 1994). The petition promotes the message “Count Me In: Sexual Rights For All.” “Sexual rights” are not included in the ICPD program of action that the IPPF petition campaign is centered around.  According to the official conference report, not only is the term not included in the ICPD program of action, but it only appears as part of reservations from countries objecting to any inclusion in the text. Read more


The case for Creationism

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Thanks to James’s weekly email I have read a little bit around the web about creationism, including “The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories” by Dr. Stephen C Meyer. My internet wanderings also included the concepts of Intelligent Design and Creation Science, including the controversy around these concepts and especially the teaching of these ideas in schools.

The article written by Dr Meyer, I found to fairly representative of what I

The more I read the more I became interested in the underlying need to argue the Bible vs Evolution.

Dr Meyers article starts out iterating through the issues he finds with current evolution theories and how they cannot account for all that we see in nature. Then the article turns in a direction I find to be deeply flawed. He tries to argue that a designer or creator would be a better causal theory for what we see in nature than random chance.

I cannot countenance a scientific argument for a creator. Not because I do not believe that to be the case, but because it makes no sense as a scientific argument.

My basic understanding of the scientific process is that you observe, make a theory to explain the observations, observer or experiment to (ideally) disprove your theory, adjust the theory to match what is observed and continue. To me, this process is a purely materialistic process based on the fact that theory can only be based on observation. Theories based on creation require a creator, a creator who either exists as life itself, inside the universe, an unsolvable recursive argument.

A better example of a creating intelligence does not exists in the universe, (spaceless timeless and immaterial as ) who created space, time and material or God.

However, using all the tools of science, no observation for something that does not “exist” can be made (mainly because it does not exist). If God interacts with the universe in any way, that interaction would not be visible to science either.

So arguing for a creator using scientific arguments does not make logical sense. science is completely unable to prove the existence or not of God, not only that, science as a discipline is unable to even make a theory or an argument on the existence of God. Science is not a tool for making observations of that which does not “exists” as it is defined in a material universe.

I believe there is more than the material universe and that the material universe exists purely by the will of God.

To me, people who try and prove Gods existence may like to think more on why they feel the need to prove God, to combat theories evolution. I would not like to have my faith in God contingent upon the disproof of evolution. I do not believe because it makes logical sense (and believe does not make logical scientific sense)

Now this I think is where some believe that science itself is evil or corrupt, for it cannot accept God.

This is not a particularly accurate opinion. Science, the study of the material world does not have any tools, any measurement, any particles or energy waves or any language that can make a statement about God in any aspect. It is simply not possible by the dint of what science is. So the lack God being a subject matter of science is not evil by itself, it is simply a natural and logical outcome of what science is. Implying that God does not exist by lack of proof, is also illogical.

My belief in God makes science a study of Gods creation. The study of that creation is commendable. The misuse of that study should be judged on that action it inspires, as are the actions of those ignorant of it.

My faith is my faith, despite what logic may argue against it. No argument will force me to give up my faith and faith is not inspired in others by logical argument.

Nathaniel B.



Developing Spiritual Champions

These workshops held nationwide in March attracted 428 men representing 152 churches, so they were an incredible success. Many commented that the workshops were crucial in providing a way forward to grow their Men’s Ministry. Some realised that particular areas were stunting the growth of their ministry, and they left with a plan of how improve things. Read the full report here>>



Live bacteria: “millions of years” old?

Bacteria trapped for millions of years under Antarctic ice Evolutionary fascination drives yet another news story about vast time spans. But what do the facts show? How could germs survive for so long?

This is hardly the only example of something that shouldn’t be here if the millions of years were true—see also blood vessels and blood cells from a T. rex bone supposedly 65 million years old, and “billion-year-old” diamonds that still contain C-14, which decays so quickly that it should be long gone.


I’m laughing over this, especially considering she is recorded in this morning’s Dominion Post as not being interested in the position.

In my view, National cannot lose – if she succeeds, John Key has thrown a bone to the anti-smacking lobby. If she fails, then National claims that they were right all along and say that the office ought to be disbanded.

No wonder Peter Dunn is spitting tacks.


Why I’m An AGW Critic

Unusual inactivity of the sun

Sunday Service

Praise & Worship (Jess)

  • For All You’ve Done
  • You’ll Come
  • My Saviour’s Love
  • The Anthem

Things You Need To Know (Ella)

  • Mike’s Blog:
  • Mother’s Day: Cards were given; Jessica sang a song from YouTube
  • Ancient Paths Seminar, 14-16 May, Register at church office
  • 50+ Lunch, Wednesday, 20th May @ Studio 6
  • 3 weeks till Global Day of Prayer


  • New Job; pay increase & toastmaster speech
  • Judith was home alone for 3 weeks; fixed computer twice; Malcolm just back from Philippines
  • Birthdays
  • Social Justice group numbers doubled from 3 to 6
  • Singles Ball
  • First granddaughter
  • 91% in maths test

First fruits

  • Proverbs 3:9-10
  • Honour the Lord with your substance and with the first fuits of all your produce…


  • Jeannie Knott
  • Thought: “Everybody had a mother”

Thoughts on Mothering

  • Elaine Scott
    • Isaiah 62:6 (AV)
    • Remind Him of His promises
    • Prayed 43 years for Alan: scientists, atheist
    • 2 weeks before death, he gave in
  • 3 Prayers you can pray for others:
    • Ephesians 1:14-19
    • Ephesians 3:14-19
    • Colossians 1:9-14

The World’s Greatest Mum

  • Mary
  • Her deification occurred Pope Pious 13th in the 12th century (I think)
  • She would have been horrified at it
  • She called herself “I am the Lord’s handmaiden”

Jesus and His Mother

  • John 19-26-27 (The Message)
  • Jesus saw his mother and the disciple he loved standing near her. He said to his mother, “Woman, …

Mary’s Call

  • Luke 1:37 (NIV)
    For nothing is impossible with God
  • Luke 2:35 (NLT)
    As a result, the deepest thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your very soul.

Paradise Lost

  • Acts 1:24-25 (The Message)
    Then they prayed, “You, O God, know every one of us inside and out. Make plan which of these two men you choose to take the place in this ministry and leadership that Judas threw away in order to go his own way.


  • Acts 5:1-4 (The Message)
  • But a man named Ananias – his wife, Sapphira, conniving in this with him – sold a piece ofl and, secretly kept part of the price for himself, and then brought the rest to the apostles…

No Relationship; No Respect

  • Acts 19:13-15 (The Message)
  • Some itinerant Jewish exorcists who happened to be in town at the time tried their hand at what they assumed to be Paul’s “game”…


  • Acts 24:25 (NKJV)
  • Now as he reasoned about righteousness, self-control, and the judgement to come, Felix was afraid and answered, “Go away for now; when I have a convenient time I will call for you.”

    Why I Am A Creationist

    Another Doubter of Darwin Goes Public

    May Acts and Facts Now Available

    • Time to Tighten Our Belt
      Lawrence E. Ford
    • Consensus Science: The Rise of a Scientific Elite
      Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.
    • Galapagos: Showcase for Creation
      John D. Morris, Ph.D.
    • Made in His Image: Beauty in Motion
      Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.
    • Human-Ape Hybridization: A Failed Attempt to Prove Darwinism
      Jerry Bergman, Ph.D.
    • A FAST Model for Underwater Debris Flows
      John D. Morris, Ph.D.
    • ICR’s Impact: The Alpha Omega Institute
      Christine Dao
    • Darwin’s Withering Tree of Life
      Brian Thomas, M.S., and Frank Sherwin, M.A.
    • Censorship in Texas: Fighting Academic and Religious Discrimination
      James J. S. Johnson, J.D.
    • Home-Going Preparations
      Henry M. Morris IV
    • Conflicts Between Text and Theology
      Henry M. Morris III, D.Min.

    Click here to view these articles

    Why I Am A Christian


    Book Review



    Psalms Book 3


    Mainly some dude named Asaph


    Songs of praise and worship to the LORD.


    1. Truly God is good to Israel
    2. O God, why have You cast us off forever?
    3. We give thanks to You, O God, we give thanks!
    4. In Judah God is known;
    5. I cried out to God with my voice
    6. Give ear, O my people, to my law;
    7. O God, the nations have come into You inheritance;
    8. Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel
    9. Sing aloud to God our strength
    10. God stands in the congregation of the mighty
    11. Do not keep silent, O God!
    12. How lovely is Your tabernacle, O LORD of hosts!
    13. LORD, You have been favourable to Your land
    14. Bow down Your ear, O LORD, hear me
    15. His foundation is in the holy mountains
    16. O LORD, God of my salvation
    17. I will sing of the mercies of the LORD forever


    Um, nice?


    Book Review #2



    The Shack


    William P. Young


    This is a difficult book to categorise as it really is a book of two halves. It starts off as a gripping thriller which is as good as any. About half way through the pace changes and it focuses on understanding God from a Christian perspective.  It is a novel of 248 pages.


    There are 18 chapters which keep up the flow as an end to end story. However as noted above there is a distinct change in the focus of the story as you go through.


    It is very well written throughout. The first part is quite quick paced and exciting as you wonder what has happened to Missy. It covers well the distress of the situation and involves the reader.  The scene is set well and you really identify with each of the characters but in particular the main character Mack.

    The "second half" of the book is about Mack’s visit with God.  Apart from the details of the story to me seemed to focus on two key issues of :-

    1. The nature of the Trinity, specifically the nature of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and their relationships
    2. To quote the title of another book – "Why bad things happen to good people"

    The context to this is what I believe to be a fair universal struggle to understand the nature of God.  As part of this there is the often raised question of how can God allow suffering to occur in the world.

    However from a personal perspective the two issues above are not the main issues that I have difficultly understanding.  So I felt they were given to much weight in terms of the focus of the book.

    My preference for the whole book would be for the author to link it back to the Bible.  There are implied truths from the Bible but no direct linkage.  In one of the reviews on the inside cover it states "William Young’s insights are not just captivating, they are biblically faithful and true".  This may the case that it was "biblically true" but I would have liked to see a direct reference to passages from the Bible.  Maybe I am missing the point in terms of a readable novel but I really would like to see some references directly the Bible.

    So overall somewhat hard to review and rate.  For me the balance between entertainment and edification was not quite right.  Yes at times I want to be entertained but I also want to be helped along in my faith and understanding of God.  This book to me was a bit of compromise on both of these items.  Maybe I am missing the point in that this book could be a gift to others to help them gain and maintain their faith in God.


    Norman C.

    Bible Reading


    Week to 17 May 2009

    1. 2 Chronicles 7:1 – 9:31
    2. Proverbs 1;1 – 3:35
    3. Proverbs 4:1 – 7:27
    4. Proverbs 8:1 – 10:32
    5. Proverbs 11:1 – 13:25
    6. Proverbs 14:1 – 16:33
    7. Proverbs 17:1 – 19:29

    Week to 24 May 2009

    1. Proverbs 20:1 – 22:29
    2. Proverbs 23:1 – 25:28
    3. Proverbs 26:1 – 28:28
    4. Proverbs 29:1 – 31:31
    5. Ecclesiastes 1:1 – 4:16
    6. Ecclesiastes 5:1 – 8:17
    7. Ecclesiastes 9:1 – 12:14

    Don’t forget you can look up these references for yourselves at:

    End Notes

    • METTLE is an acronym for Men’s Evangelical Team Together for Learning Experiences. We are primarily Christian businessmen from Wellington, who meet occasionally in the CBD to encourage each other in our daily walk with Jesus. This Weekly Collaborative Blog (WCB) is our primary means of communication.  If you know of anyone who may benefit from this WCB, you are welcome to forward them along. Similarly, if your circumstances are such that membership in this distribution list is no longer relevant, then hit reply and type UNSUBSCRIBE to have it removed.
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    • Published by The Voice of Reason, New Zealand, copyright (C) 2009


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